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O1 for knives

O1 is the machinist's tool steel and the stock-removal maker's friend: it is sold precision ground and flat in every size, it holds an edge well, and it heat treats reliably in a kiln with a modest soak. It is less happy in a forge — narrow forging range, and it needs the soak to dissolve its carbides.

Heat treat at a glance

Good forStock-removal hunters, EDC and kitchen knives, woodworking tools; makers with a kiln.
Forging1800–1950 °F, do not forge below 1550 °F — a narrow window; buy it to size if you can
NormalizeBuy annealed. After forging, normalize once at 1600–1650 °F, then anneal 1425–1450 °F with a slow cool
Austenitize1475–1500 °F, 10–30 min soak (mills say 30 min per inch)
QuenchMedium oil (Parks AAA); high hardenability
Temper400 °F twice → 60–63 HRC
Working hardness60–63 HRC

Typical shop values. Confirm against your supplier's datasheet.

Buying it

Precision-ground flat stock in every thickness from 1/16 to 3/8 in and widths from 1 to 4 in at knife suppliers (industrial suppliers go to 1 in thick and 12 in wide), in 12, 18, 24 and 36 in lengths. The widest range of any steel here.

  • Buy it precision ground and skip the flattening.
  • Without the soak it comes out soft; a forge heat treat is a compromise.

Suppliers: New Jersey Steel Baron Alpha Knife Supply Jantz

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Forged: scale, decarb and clean-up (10–15%). Stock removal: extra length for layout (about 5%).
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Saw kerf plus the stub you can't use.
Forging to shape, then grinding the spine to size? Go one size up.

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Questions

Is O1 good for forging knives?

It can be forged but it does not want to be: narrow working range, cracks if worked cold, and it still needs a soak at hardening. Use 1084 for forging and O1 for stock removal.

Free: the one-page stock size chart

Bar sizes for ten common knife patterns, weight per inch for every standard flat bar, and quick heat-treat numbers for the usual carbon steels. Print it, tape it to the grinder.

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