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O1 for knives

O1 is the machinist's tool steel and a steel plenty of bladesmiths forge: it is sold precision ground and flat in every size, it holds an edge well, and it heat treats reliably in a kiln with a modest soak. In the forge it moves stiffer than 1084 and has a narrow window, and it still needs the soak at hardening to dissolve its carbides.

Heat treat at a glance

Good forForged and stock-removal hunters, EDC and kitchen knives, woodworking tools; makers with a kiln, or a forge they can hold at an even heat.
Forging1800–1950 °F, do not forge below 1550 °F — a narrow window, and it moves stiffer than 1084
NormalizeBuy annealed. After forging, normalize once at 1600–1650 °F, then anneal 1425–1450 °F with a slow cool
Austenitize1475–1500 °F, 10–30 min soak (mills say 30 min per inch)
QuenchMedium oil (Parks AAA); high hardenability
Temper400 °F twice → 60–63 HRC
Working hardness60–63 HRC

Typical shop values. Confirm against your supplier's datasheet.

Buying it

Precision-ground flat stock in every thickness from 1/16 to 3/8 in and widths from 1 to 4 in at knife suppliers (industrial suppliers go to 1 in thick and 12 in wide), in 12, 18, 24 and 36 in lengths. The widest range of any steel here.

  • Buy it precision ground and skip the flattening.
  • Without the soak it comes out soft; a forge heat treat is a compromise.

Suppliers: New Jersey Steel Baron Alpha Knife Supply Jantz

Work out the bar for your knife in O1

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The stub at each end you can't use.
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Off by default: forging a knife, you hold the tang you just drew. Count it if you leave a stub, or forge off a long bar.
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Tang dimensions are estimated from the tang style until you change them. Measuring yours is worth doing — a forged blank's length depends on the tang's cross-section, not on what the tang is called.

Forging to shape, then grinding the spine to size? Go one size up.
Calibration: fill factors & grinding loss

The fraction of the blade's and tang's bounding box that is actually steel once the bevels are ground. Distal taper is factored in separately now (see "Distal taper" below, under What this assumed) and isn't editable here yet — these two fill factors are the ones worth replacing with your own measurements: weigh a finished blade, then adjust until the finished weight below matches the scale.

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Extra steel a forged blank loses to grinding and clean-up beyond forge scale — bevels, straightening, plunge, tang. This one doesn't show up on a kitchen scale with the finished knife: it only changes how much bar the calculator tells you to buy, not the finished weight. Calibrate it by weighing your own raw blank against the finished knife. Defaults to 25%, from one bladesmith's own weighed knife (256 g raw to ~182 g finished) — expect this number to move as more makers share theirs.

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Questions

Is O1 good for forging knives?

Yes, plenty of smiths forge it. Keep it in its window (1800–1950 °F, nothing below 1550 °F): it moves stiffer than 1084 and cracks if it's hammered cold. Then normalize, anneal, and give it the full soak at hardening, or it comes out soft.

Free: the one-page stock size chart

Bar sizes for ten common knife patterns, weight per inch for every standard flat bar, and quick heat-treat numbers for the usual carbon steels. Print it, tape it to the grinder.

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