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80CrV2 for knives

80CrV2 is 1080 with a little chromium and vanadium, which gives a finer grain and noticeably more toughness at the same hardness. It heat treats almost as easily as 1084, hardens in medium oil, and has become the default choice for big knives and for kitchen knives that need to survive a dishwasher-owning customer.

Heat treat at a glance

Good forCamp knives, bowies, kukris, choppers; also excellent thin kitchen knives.
ForgingNo hotter than 2100 °F
Normalize1650 / 1500 / 1350 °F, 10–15 min each, air cool between (NJSB); or a single 1550–1600 °F normalize plus a 1400 °F cycle (Knife Steel Nerds)
Austenitize1500–1525 °F, 10 min soak (longer for stock over 1/8 in)
QuenchFast or medium oil — Parks 50, AAA, or an 11-second oil; toughness tested the same in all of them
Temper400 °F twice → 60–61 HRC; 450 °F → 57–58 with peak toughness. Don't go above 450
Working hardness58–61 HRC

Typical shop values. Confirm against your supplier's datasheet.

Buying it

Flat bar from 3/32 to 1/4 in thick and 1 to 2 in wide, usually 18–48 in lengths.

  • Slightly more decarb-resistant than 1084 and finer grained out of the quench.
  • A very good steel to sell customers: reads as 'premium' next to 1084, costs a little more.

Suppliers: New Jersey Steel Baron Alpha Knife Supply Jantz

Work out the bar for your knife in 80CrV2

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The stub at each end you can't use.
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Off by default: forging a knife, you hold the tang you just drew. Count it if you leave a stub, or forge off a long bar.
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Tang dimensions are estimated from the tang style until you change them. Measuring yours is worth doing — a forged blank's length depends on the tang's cross-section, not on what the tang is called.

Forging to shape, then grinding the spine to size? Go one size up.
Calibration: fill factors & grinding loss

The fraction of the blade's and tang's bounding box that is actually steel once the bevels are ground. Distal taper is factored in separately now (see "Distal taper" below, under What this assumed) and isn't editable here yet — these two fill factors are the ones worth replacing with your own measurements: weigh a finished blade, then adjust until the finished weight below matches the scale.

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Extra steel a forged blank loses to grinding and clean-up beyond forge scale — bevels, straightening, plunge, tang. This one doesn't show up on a kitchen scale with the finished knife: it only changes how much bar the calculator tells you to buy, not the finished weight. Calibrate it by weighing your own raw blank against the finished knife. Defaults to 25%, from one bladesmith's own weighed knife (256 g raw to ~182 g finished) — expect this number to move as more makers share theirs.

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Questions

Is 80CrV2 better than 1084?

Tougher at the same hardness and finer grained, for a small premium and a slightly longer soak. For a big knife, yes; for a first knife, 1084 is simpler.

Free: the one-page stock size chart

Bar sizes for ten common knife patterns, weight per inch for every standard flat bar, and quick heat-treat numbers for the usual carbon steels. Print it, tape it to the grinder.

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